Depression claim

[bronco54501]

katicabogar
I too had same problems with my pt and ot. It was being handled through the YMCA grouped with our ministry rehab. They over pushed me and I was not ready. I too ended up going to the er, cause the pain was terrible. My surgeon and my injury doctor pulled me out of that establishment. They pushed me 4hrs a day 5 times a week. After they hurt me it took about 8 weeks at the new place to get back on track.

[Lilly]

Hi again kat,
Question... Are you expected to keep on with your voc rehab at the same time, or is this going to stop while you go to this clinic?
Prayers for you Kat! lilly

[katicabogar]

Hi, Lilly,

I will be in the voc rehab program with this clinic, with their counselor, I think 3 days per week a few hours.
The schedule will be something like this from 8:00 am to 4:00 with half hour lunch:
Mondays: pt all day
Tuesday: ot all day
Wednesday: voc counseling/mental counseling/pain management
Thursdays: voc counseling/mental counseling/pain management
Fridays: voc counseling/mental counseling/ and swim therapy

Well, the pain management is just some type of advise how to manage pain, as they believe it is in our head.

Kat

[katicabogar]

Oke, I thought I just let everyone know how this so called "pain clinic" evaluation went. It lasted about four hours...first interview with pshyc doctor who asked all stupid questions about alcoholic parents or sex abuse in childhood and drug abuse etc. All negative for me, my depression is non of above reasons. Next came voc counselor..didn't last too long, he just wanted to know what type of work do I think I could do. Next interview came with clinic's director, dr. Somebody who is a sports medicine specialist. HE REJECTED ME..he said, I am not ready mentally to be a client there.

Oke, here is what he said...they believe, chronic pain is caused by the mind and if we(patients)believe we can learn to ignore it, than we are cured. The clinic's job is to teach us how to ignore the pain and as he said, to get rid of pain will cause pain(Ot/Pt therapy). He said, they believe the patient best not know what's causing the pain because it just depresses them more and will not help to teach the mind to heal our body. When I said, this is the main part of my depression..not knowing why am I in pain and denial of necessary tests like MRI and not getting any treatment since 2006...he said than he is instructing my PCP to increase the dosage of my depression medication. Also he said, he can tell, if I had MRI test, it would show lots of problems including several bulging discs, but because of my age?(I am 55). When I questioned him about the burning shoulders/getting numb in arms/hands and now my feet and also the burning in my feet etc...he said, I may have RSD as he seen thousands of patients. He told me, if I have it, I best not know it because it's a terrible disease, no cure and would make me even more depressed. When I insisted, I would like to get a dx or cause of my pain and condition even if there is no cure, than he said, I am just not ready for their clinic. He said, they just approve 66% of patients referred to them and I am not in that percentage due to my attitude about pain. He also said, half of the patients hate them and curse them by the time they are through with them(8 hours per day for a month and 4 hours per day for two weeks)..but other half thank them . He said, because I question the cause of my pain and want to know all the reasons behind it, I am miserable and if I want this life it's up to me. As he was saying after I described my symptoms the truth is they just don't know what's causing it and the only thing what they can due to lessen pain is MIND CONTROLL.

So that's what happened and I know I had a very good reason to be nervous about this clinic what IME doctor and Voc Counselor recommended for me and adjuster approved right away. The director said, there is only three pain clinic in this state and they are one of them but same company and they are in this business more than 20 years and are very well recommended. I wonder by whom...

Kat

[dar666]

katicabogar Wrote:Oke, I thought I just let everyone know how this so called "pain clinic" evaluation went. It lasted about four hours...first interview with pshyc doctor who asked all stupid questions about alcoholic parents or sex abuse in childhood and drug abuse etc. All negative for me, my depression is non of above reasons. Next came voc counselor..didn't last too long, he just wanted to know what type of work do I think I could do. Next interview came with clinic's director, dr. Somebody who is a sports medicine specialist. HE REJECTED ME..he said, I am not ready mentally to be a client there.

Oke, here is what he said...they believe, chronic pain is caused by the mind and if we(patients)believe we can learn to ignore it, than we are cured. The clinic's job is to teach us how to ignore the pain and as he said, to get rid of pain will cause pain(Ot/Pt therapy). He said, they believe the patient best not know what's causing the pain because it just depresses them more and will not help to teach the mind to heal our body. When I said, this is the main part of my depression..not knowing why am I in pain and denial of necessary tests like MRI and not getting any treatment since 2006...he said than he is instructing my PCP to increase the dosage of my depression medication. Also he said, he can tell, if I had MRI test, it would show lots of problems including several bulging discs, but because of my age?(I am 55). When I questioned him about the burning shoulders/getting numb in arms/hands and now my feet and also the burning in my feet etc...he said, I may have RSD as he seen thousands of patients. He told me, if I have it, I best not know it because it's a terrible disease, no cure and would make me even more depressed. When I insisted, I would like to get a dx or cause of my pain and condition even if there is no cure, than he said, I am just not ready for their clinic. He said, they just approve 66% of patients referred to them and I am not in that percentage due to my attitude about pain. He also said, half of the patients hate them and curse them by the time they are through with them(8 hours per day for a month and 4 hours per day for two weeks)..but other half thank them . He said, because I question the cause of my pain and want to know all the reasons behind it, I am miserable and if I want this life it's up to me. As he was saying after I described my symptoms the truth is they just don't know what's causing it and the only thing what they can due to lessen pain is MIND CONTROLL.

So that's what happened and I know I had a very good reason to be nervous about this clinic what IME doctor and Voc Counselor recommended for me and adjuster approved right away. The director said, there is only three pain clinic in this state and they are one of them but same company and they are in this business more than 20 years and are very well recommended. I wonder by whom...

Kat OMG!!!! What a ass, its doctors like him who have turn there back on people with RSD. We can control are pain by are minds i would of said if thats the case then i would kick you right in the balls then light them on fire if my mind is that powerfull. I would turn him in i have been in pain with RSD for almost 3 years it took 2 operations for the doctors to say OPPS that wasnt it. They are being paid by comp thats why the adjuster approved it right away. I have been down that road. Thank God i have a attorney between the comp nurse setting me up to the adjuster i dont ever have to speak to there sorry faces again. I dont know how you sat there listening to a mental job. If you dont want to turn this freak in to protect yourself and others i will do it for you. Im 44 years old and have 3 boys and a husband. After the pain i have to live with i dont hold any thing back any more. If that freak of a doctor would say yes you have RSD then you can get the treament you need. Because of doctors like mine and that jerk it may be to late for me to get the trement i need. TURN HIM IN !!!!

[katicabogar]

Dar666,

Yesterday, I sent an e-mail to my attorney's office just to let them know what happened. I am actually glad this clinic turned me down as a possible "client"(as they refer to patients), because I know their only goal is to push people back to work no matter how much pain they are in. I know if I had to attend, they would find a way to say I was not co-operating and would report it to my adjuster and would be cut off from time loss.
Regarding the RSD..I know deep down I have it and I also know when it started..right after my last surgery in 2006. I had to see my pcp that time because my nails started getting yellow and thick and some fell off. Doctor that time said, it wasn't fungus. I was not aware of RSD until last year...if I knew what it was probably I would pay more attention to my symptoms.
For some reason, most doctors who dealt with me just laugh off RSD when I mention it and I just don't know whom to turn to. I do not have insurance and I know if I wanted a true dx, I would have to see several doctors and go through several tests which would cost me thousands of dollars which I do not have.

Well, not all hope is lost, I truly believe it will work out for me and this nightmare will end, I just have to be patient and trust God.

Thanks for listening and caring and hope your RSD will be under control and eventually find a cure.

Kat

[dar666]

Hi There, I know its not fair and its so fustration. It ts pain full enough to deal with on top of crap like that. If we could just find one doctor close by. I feel bad i wish i could do something. My rsd support group is called My Health board. com. I dont know how i would of got threw this with out them. They are the nices people i concider them my friends. I wish you all the best i hope you stop by the site.

[Lilly]

Hi Kat,
Well what is happening, and the pain clinic's thinking, is very scary. It's all in our heads eh? That's a crock IMO. I donno what to say, but I'm glad you were turned down as a hopeful patient for their clinic. I know what drives me the craziest is.....having severe pain...and not knowing what it's caused from, or where the problem within my body lies! How can "not knowing" be better for a person?
It simply does not make sense!
Let us know what WC/IC pulls next....they are relentless !
((((( Hugs)))))) ^^^^^ Prayers^^^^ Lilly

[katicabogar]

Well, here is the latest twist...I just got letter from this pain clinic, they are requesting authorization from I/C for me to attend the program. They want me to start around Dec. 12..and I should make an other appointment with the director who told me I was rejected. Now what is this? Are they insane or me? It's just proves, they are doing everything for the money...I know, this so called evaluation cost $1500.00 and they submitted the bill on the same day as my evaluation were to I/C.

I don't know what to think, I am very upset and I just don't know who to trust anymore. Maybe it is a setup? Was I sold out by atty or my doctor? As I think back, when I saw the pshych doctor on this clinic, his first sentence was, "so you don't get along with your attorney". I said I don't understand..than he says with this mocking smile, "well, your atty couldn't help you?". I say I still don't understand, than he droppes the subject.
Same happened with the other doctor who also the director of this clinic.
He was pretty much questioning, why did I get an attorney after two years and I could tell, he didn't approve it.

Well, what do you think? Was I sold out? Was I set up?

Thanks for reading.

Kat