How easy is it to spot private detectives?

[gaucli]

My employer called them 3 different times and told them I was working. It made me mad but at the same time I really thought it was funny because I wasnt and she was going to have to pay for them. I called one of them and left a message and told them if they wanted to find me, that they were more than welcome to follow me around for a day...didn't hear another word! lol

[LeglEgl]

(09-25-2011 08:14 PM)Inpian Wrote:  What they cant do "legally" is one thing, But what they actually do is another,
You can tell everybody your statistics are facts but your wrong and or misinformed, what " really " goes on in the “real world” is much much different than you portray.

So, because I said "probably less than 3%", that's quoting statistics ? That was a number out of a hat - it wasn't even presented as a statistic, it was a "probably".

Of course there are those who will cross the line, but very few do that at the risk of facing criminal or civil penalties and losing their license. Your "real world" is watching too much television

And, yes, it would be illegal to place a tracking device on your vehicle without a Court order, and it would be illegal to track your cell phone without a Court order. Does it happen - hard to say - but the "evidence" wouldn't be admitted, as unlawfully obtained, so no P.I. is going to spend the money doing it.

[Inpian]

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Of course there are those who will cross the line, but very few do that at the risk of facing criminal or civil penalties and losing their license. Your "real world" is watching too much television

And, yes, it would be illegal to place a tracking device on your vehicle without a Court order, and it would be illegal to track your cell phone without a Court order. Does it happen - hard to say - but the "evidence" wouldn't be admitted, as unlawfully obtained, so no P.I. is going to spend the money doing it.
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The real world is "My" world and I lived ( Live ) it, and experienced all I speak of, and you ??............
Very few cross the line ?? and you know this how ??? ...dont you mean very few are actually caught.... It would be a wonderful world if it were as you describe............................. Money rules the world and people will do anything to get it and keep it.

There are so many things that are "Illegal" in this country, but people do them on a daily basis because their chances of getting caught are very minimal at best .” You cant prove who put the GPS there “ unless you seen them do it, so "the few" that crossed the line were caught putting it there. So my point in this is, legal or not it does happen more than you think, and you only hear of the ones that got caught, very hard to prove without seeing them do it, anyone could have put it there.

I will give you a different example, in New York State a private investigator was shot by the injured worker he was filming while” trespassing “on that persons property to secretly film him.. That P.I. was doing something that was "Illegal " but he got caught and paid the price. Most don’t get caught and they are smarter than we give credit for, I will say that much from my experiences. Made me a much wiser and more realistic person.

I didnt come on here to argue with you or anyone, Only to educate and make people aware that the world doesnt work as you describe, you would be very naive and misinformed to think otherwise and I am telling you this from actual life experience and facts. For you to be on here telling people this doesn’t happen and not to worry makes me wonder who you really are and what your agenda really is…….Im just saying…….

[bronco54501]

You both have made some good points to argue, and I must say If you think its possible, well it probably is.... To some with minimal damage/injuries, they wont waste there money.... I my self have multi injuries and have collected a bit of money already and have not been fully rated.... Have I been suspisius (spelling) , yes, but truthfully have not seen a soul accept for the few turnarounds in drive way... But that does not mean they are not watching, I cant and dont try to go out of my restrictions... Take a deep breath, stay within restrictions and you dont have nothing to worry about.. And for the ones that fraud the system, we have them to thank for our privacy being evaded and stalked......

[LeglEgl]

Of course there are those who will cross the line, but very few do that at the risk of facing criminal or civil penalties and losing their license. Your "real world" is watching too much television

And, yes, it would be illegal to place a tracking device on your vehicle without a Court order, and it would be illegal to track your cell phone without a Court order. Does it happen - hard to say - but the "evidence" wouldn't be admitted, as unlawfully obtained, so no P.I. is going to spend the money doing it.
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The real world is "My" world and I lived ( Live ) it, and experienced all I speak of, and you ??............
Very few cross the line ?? and you know this how ??? ...dont you mean very few are actually caught.... It would be a wonderful world if it were as you describe............................. Money rules the world and people will do anything to get it and keep it.

There are so many things that are "Illegal" in this country, but people do them on a daily basis because their chances of getting caught are very minimal at best .” You cant prove who put the GPS there “ unless you seen them do it, so "the few" that crossed the line were caught putting it there. So my point in this is, legal or not it does happen more than you think, and you only hear of the ones that got caught, very hard to prove without seeing them do it, anyone could have put it there.

I will give you a different example, in New York State a private investigator was shot by the injured worker he was filming while” trespassing “on that persons property to secretly film him.. That P.I. was doing something that was "Illegal " but he got caught and paid the price. Most don’t get caught and they are smarter than we give credit for, I will say that much from my experiences. Made me a much wiser and more realistic person.

I didnt come on here to argue with you or anyone, Only to educate and make people aware that the world doesnt work as you describe, you would be very naive and misinformed to think otherwise and I am telling you this from actual life experience and facts. For you to be on here telling people this doesn’t happen and not to worry makes me wonder who you really are and what your agenda really is…….Im just saying…….
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You clearly haven't read my profile. 20+ years in law enforcement, private investigations, and law firms (Investigator). You're naive to think that your ASSUMPTIONS are FACT.

There are always going to be abhorrent situations, out of the ordinary, customary, and acceptable. Legitimate IC's (as crooked as they are) will not usually hire a P.I. firm without being sure they will operate within the law.

Get over it.

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The real world is "My" world and I lived ( Live ) it, and experienced all I speak of, and you ??............
Very few cross the line ?? and you know this how ??? ...dont you mean very few are actually caught.... It would be a wonderful world if it were as you describe............................. Money rules the world and people will do anything to get it and keep it.

There are so many things that are "Illegal" in this country, but people do them on a daily basis because their chances of getting caught are very minimal at best .” You cant prove who put the GPS there “ unless you seen them do it, so "the few" that crossed the line were caught putting it there. So my point in this is, legal or not it does happen more than you think, and you only hear of the ones that got caught, very hard to prove without seeing them do it, anyone could have put it there.

I will give you a different example, in New York State a private investigator was shot by the injured worker he was filming while” trespassing “on that persons property to secretly film him.. That P.I. was doing something that was "Illegal " but he got caught and paid the price. Most don’t get caught and they are smarter than we give credit for, I will say that much from my experiences. Made me a much wiser and more realistic person.

I didnt come on here to argue with you or anyone, Only to educate and make people aware that the world doesnt work as you describe, you would be very naive and misinformed to think otherwise and I am telling you this from actual life experience and facts. For you to be on here telling people this doesn’t happen and not to worry makes me wonder who you really are and what your agenda really is…….Im just saying…….
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You obviously haven't read my profile. 20+ years working in the field in various concentrations, more so in Investigations.

I'd love to see the news story on the P.I. in NY that was shot by the IW. Almost bet you can't produce it.

You're not educating me, you're trying to sell snake oil to others. You question my intent with what logical motivation ? Try reading some of my posts - I'm not the fly in your ointment.

You state you have "actual life experiences" - so why is a P.I. so dutifully interested in YOU ? Have something to hide - on the run ? You tell me.

[Inpian]

I have wasted enough time with you and your childish banter.

Im here to inform and educate people from "real life experiences" that I have been through and still deal with. You come on here stating what "you think" happens and I have stated what DOES happen and has, so "you" can move on and get over it. You are trying to tell someone thats standing out in the rain that its not raining........Please....

You certainly have an agenda to try and portray this fantasy land that its just all in your head Idea to everyone, they cant and would never do something like that because its not legal....... Nonsense, One thing you don’t have on your little list is my experience and yes they are FACT, unlike your premonition of the fantasy world you believe is and could never be any different….very naïve you are yes. I see your trying to do the same thing in other forums on this subject…seems someone here has an agenda , you try way to hard to convince people otherwise, me smells a ratt………………………………......

My conversation with you is finished,

Read it and weep, I dont tell bed time stories like you, Only the FACTS >>>>> http://fairfax-loudoun.injuryboard.com/w...eid=275436

[LeglEgl]

(09-26-2011 06:15 PM)Inpian Wrote:  I have wasted enough time with you and your childish banter.

Im here to inform and educate people from "real life experiences" that I have been through and still deal with. You come on here stating what "you think" happens and I have stated what DOES happen and has, so "you" can move on and get over it. You are trying to tell someone thats standing out in the rain that its not raining........Please....

You certainly have an agenda to try and portray this fantasy land that its just all in your head Idea to everyone, they cant and would never do something like that because its not legal....... Nonsense, One thing you don’t have on your little list is my experience and yes they are FACT, unlike your premonition of the fantasy world you believe is and could never be any different….very naïve you are yes. I see your trying to do the same thing in other forums on this subject…seems someone here has an agenda , you try way to hard to convince people otherwise, me smells a ratt………………………………......

My conversation with you is finished,



Read it and weep, I dont tell bed time stories like you, Only the FACTS >>>>> http://fairfax-loudoun.injuryboard.com/w...eid=275436

You need to get back on your medication.

[Inpian]

I thought so..........

[bronco54501]

Is it time for a bag of popcorn.......?

[ammowoman]

We're still new to the ways of workmans comp. We haven't had anyone watch as far as we know. Everything has even gone fairly smooth this far. As we are now nearing the settlement process, I would not be surprised if they did watch my husband. What they would see is ME doing everything. Grocery shopping and unloading them, yard work shampooing carpets, shoveling the snow, walking our big dog we had before his injury...They may see him get the mail or taking out a trash bag.... I switch to little kitchen bags so he could help with that. He stays within his restrictions not for fear of being watched, but because he actually can't do more. Even staying in restrictions and doing something like carry his laundry up the stairs causes more pain and more meds. Its a vicious circle.

The advise and support I have received for this site is priceless and welcomed for anyone who takes time to reply. Every situation is different but I do believe all mean well.